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Addiction 22: Jon Elhai explains the connection between dopamine and technology

Season 2
March 24, 2026

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In this conversation, hosts Jon Bruford and Dr. Michael Auer engage with distinguished professor Jon Elhai, exploring the psychological aspects of internet and smartphone use. They discuss the implications of excessive internet engagement, the challenges of self-reporting in psychological research, and the phenomenon of FOMO (Fear of Missing Out).

The conversation also touches on generational differences in technology use and intelligence, as well as the contextual factors influencing smartphone addiction. This conversation explores the generational differences in learning styles, particularly between Gen Z and previous generations, emphasising the impact of technology on attention and learning. It discusses the importance of analogue learning methods and the role of dopamine in technology use. The dialogue also delves into the definitions of trauma and PTSD, the erosion of language precision in contemporary discourse, and the distinction between addiction and problematic use. Furthermore, it examines the challenges of researching emerging technologies and the responsibilities of both individuals and tech companies in mitigating harm. Finally, the conversation touches on the regulatory landscape surrounding social media and smartphone use.

What we talk about, but in a list:

  1. Jon Elhai is a distinguished professor at the University of Toledo.
  2. FOMO drives excessive internet and smartphone use.
  3. Self-reporting in psychological studies has its limitations.
  4. Contextual factors play a significant role in smartphone use.
  5. Gen Z shows a decline in IQ compared to previous generations.
  6. Psychological constructs can explain why some people excessively use the internet.
  7. Standardised self-report measures are used to assess mental health symptoms.
  8. Technology has enhanced the experience of FOMO in individuals.
  9. Assessment is crucial for identifying potential internet addiction.
  10. Procrastination can be linked to smartphone use. Gen Z often prefers spoon-fed information over traditional learning.
  11. Analog processing of information may enhance retention.
  12. Research indicates that analogue note-taking improves academic outcomes.
  13. Younger generations may face challenges in attention and focus due to technology.
  14. Social media use is not conclusively linked to mental disorders.
  15. Tech companies design platforms to maximize user engagement and addiction.
  16. Language precision is diminishing in contemporary discussions.
  17. There are no official DSM criteria for problematic smartphone use.
  18. Research funding may be easier for recognised diagnoses.
  19. Personal responsibility is crucial in technology use.

Choice quotes:

  1. “Self-report measures are reliable and valid.”
  2. “Technology has triggered enhanced FOMO.”
  3. “Assessment is the first step to intervention.”
  4. “Gen Z wants to be spoon fed information.”
  5. “Analogue processing sticks more to your brain.”
  6. “Everybody’s looking for a culprit.”
  7. “We need to take personal responsibility.”
  8. “Tech companies create addictive elements.”

Chapters (but you might want to add 40 seconds or so because of the music and intro and all that):

  1. 00:00 Introduction to the Hosts and Guest
  2. 04:19 Understanding the Role of a Distinguished Professor
  3. 05:28 Exploring Internet and Smartphone Use in Psychology
  4. 10:32 The Challenges of Self-Reporting in Psychological Research
  5. 16:57 FOMO: The Fear of Missing Out and Its Impact
  6. 20:41 The Role of Technology in FOMO
  7. 25:10 Identifying Risk Factors for Smartphone Addiction
  8. 30:02 Contextual Factors in Smartphone Use
  9. 31:40 Procrastination and Smartphone Use
  10. 32:40 Generational Differences in Intelligence and Technology Use
  11. 33:12 Generational Learning Differences
  12. 36:15 Analog vs. Digital Learning
  13. 39:43 The Role of Dopamine in Technology Use
  14. 40:54 Understanding Trauma and PTSD
  15. 43:14 The Erosion of Language Precision
  16. 46:22 Addiction vs. Problematic Use
  17. 48:20 The DSM and Behavioral Addictions
  18. 51:21 Research Challenges in Emerging Technologies
  19. 54:20 Responsibility in Technology Use
  20. 58:11 Regulations and Social Media Use

Jon Elhai on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jonelhai/

Addiction: An Hour With Auer is a weekly podcast where hosts Dr Michael Auer – he of the title – and Jon Bruford talk about addiction in all its forms. Not just gambling addiction, they discuss all forms of addiction with experts, academics and researchers from around the world.

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