Another twofer, as our American cousins say; Jon and Fintan meet two guests but it's two superb guests. First they talk smack [0:00 - 9:23]. Then the brilliant Harp Edwards explains the work at Gordon Moody, where she works on the world's first ever residential treatment centre for women with gambling problems. This could be industry-changing, and it's a great listen [9:24 - 1:01:47]. And the data! Second, we have The Guardian's Rob Davies talking about his recent book, Jackpot: How Gambing Conquered Britain. It's a wide-ranging conversation with a very smart and funny man [1:01:48 - 2:18:55].